Episode 165 – saving a faltering campaign

* Chris is off to take his PT exam.

* Fear the Con 3 has dates!  March 11, 2010 for Wing Night, March 12 – 13 for the con, March 14 – 17 for additional social events.

* The City of Villains supergroup on Pinnacle server is still going strong.  Free account reactivation and double XP this weekend.

* What makes a game system a LARP?

* Why we won’t try to define the terms RPG or LARP.

* Recovering momentum in a dying campaign.

Hosts: Chad, Dan, Pat, Wayne

Comments (10)

Triggerhappy938October 7th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

I was listening to this, chuckling about the LARP discussion, when the talk about the SCA came up. It just so happened I was packing for an SCA event in Arkansas this weekend, and had my cloak in hand when you called us a LARP group. I’m sad now. T . T Fortunately there will be plenty of booze at said event to drown my woes.

SandpunkOctober 8th, 2009 at 12:57 am

Larping in and of itself is not evil. The lack of decorum that usually follows it around is. I was involved in a friends Vampire LARP when we were in high school (funny story that; it turns out I once met Goatunit this way). The Game was fun, but sometimes the guys (and one girl) in the group would scare the norms, and be totally unrepentant. It would often embarass the hell out of me. There is a local group called SOLAR that looks kinda fun, and several people hav etried to tempt me into going. I might have to give in one day.

Ashley GriffithsOctober 8th, 2009 at 2:10 am

LARPing is interesting. Its only in America where the majority of LARP is Vampire. In britain that is very mush the minority and generally they don’t play in any of our equivalents of Denny’s. In britain its generally big fantasy LARPs where 4 or 5 long weekends a year you and 500 other people go to a private camp site and take part in the major events of your LARP system, whilst having maybe monthly smaller sessions just to build up your groups storyline ready for the next big event.

Basically we have one simple overriding rule within the British LARPing community. Don’t do it where non LARPers are, they just get confused or outright scared.

Michael PhillipsOctober 8th, 2009 at 6:35 pm

I’m partway through the episode. The WoD Larp is a seperate book from the main game, one that accesses the other books (Mind’s Eye Theater I think is/was the name)

TetsuboOctober 11th, 2009 at 1:05 am

I was very active in the SCA for years in the Barony of Stonemarche (NH). I was the PR guy for our Barony for 3+ years. I don’t consider the SCA to be a LARP. We actually practice the crafts that our personas ‘play’. We actually hit each other with rattan sticks, leaving dents in 10 gauge steel. We use real bows and crossbows for archery contests. LARPing is pretend on a much greater level than what SCAdians do. If you can think of a hand crafted skill, I know someone that can do it for real.

GrantOctober 12th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

The coffee shop sounds like Haven Coffee, if it was around 1994-1996. Run by gamers for gamers.

DonnovanOctober 14th, 2009 at 12:20 am

Thanks for explaining the source of your LARP comments for all these years, now it finally makes sense.
I really haven’t encountered too much of the Vamp thing. I usually encounter the combat groups like SCA or the foam fighting ones like I participate in (Amtgard). Those can fall into a gray area between a LARP and a sport. In Amtgard, roleplay is not mandated, so it tends to feel more like a sport. I’d definitely not really call SCA a LARP. That’s more of a serious historical recreational group than a game. To my knowledge there are no levels or much else to connect it with a game atmosphere, where in Amtgard, there are classes, levels in those classes and things like monsters for certain scenarios. Very much a game in that sense.

DougOctober 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am

Listening to the episode, I’m confused…have you guys not seen the Mind’s Eye books from White Wolf that give the LARPing rules? The LARPing system isn’t in the tabletop books…they are their own systems derived from the tabletop rules.

Listening further, this is hilarious, guys. I had thought since you were so often joking about LARPs, you had at least some idea of what they actually are.

I’d recommend going to the FLGS and reading one of the Live-Action books for World of Darkness, Call of Cthulhu, etc. It would make for a much more intelligent conversation on the topic.

DanOctober 14th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

@Doug – By coincidence, we come back to those exact points in 166. However, I don’t think it’s quite fair to say that since we’re not familiar with certain accouterments of LARPing we therefore don’t know what the phrase means. In the forum discussion after 165, I came to the jarring conclusion I know jack about the products (once again, see 166 when it drops), but I still know what a LARP is and have both run and played in them before. It’d be like finding a guy that plays tabletop RPGs but has never heard of D&D or polyhedral dice, because he only plays home-brews and flips coins for decision making. It’s strange — and there’s clearly room for education — but that doesn’t mean he’s got no idea what an RPG is.

RickNovember 15th, 2009 at 11:23 am

Thanks for explaining the meaning of the Darklords of Dennys. I was ignorant about the real meaning. Do you have a FAQ for teh otehr phrases that your podcast uses. I have not seen one.

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