What have you watched recently?

Seen any good movies or TV shows lately? Or anything so bad you just have to vent?
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Re: What have you watched recently?

Postby Azhrei Vep » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:08 pm

tombombodil wrote:Gotcha. With that definition it certainly fits. It's almost a more specific term used to refer to a slightly broader concept: The villain unwittingly goading the hero into action in the pursuit of hurting or humiliating them, usually because the underestimate their quarry.

It can be anything from extreme (kill the entire village a la Conan) or mild (a bully picking on a kid so their normally more complacent friend comes to the rescue)

You mean Mugging the Monster?
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Re: What have you watched recently?

Postby tombombodil » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:12 pm

Azhrei Vep wrote:
tombombodil wrote:Gotcha. With that definition it certainly fits. It's almost a more specific term used to refer to a slightly broader concept: The villain unwittingly goading the hero into action in the pursuit of hurting or humiliating them, usually because the underestimate their quarry.

It can be anything from extreme (kill the entire village a la Conan) or mild (a bully picking on a kid so their normally more complacent friend comes to the rescue)

You mean Mugging the Monster?


It's a little different then that. It's beating up the monster's weaker friend, or ganging up on the monster when they're drunk tired and sad. That then provokes the monster to seek revenge after the fact.
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Re: What have you watched recently?

Postby DistinctlyBenign » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:35 pm

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. 3 episodes in to phantom blood, but I did watch a couple episodes of stardust crusaders a few years ago so I know I'm at about a 1 on the anime bs scale right now and this show is going to take it up past 11.
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Re: What have you watched recently?

Postby clintmemo » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:00 am

Mrs Memo and I watched "Hostiles" over the weekend.

I'm conflicted about it.
On the one hand, it was a well filmed, well acted, very beautiful movie.
On the other hand, (which is full of spoilers)
First off, it is so bleak. Nothing good ever happens to anyone. Outside of a horror movie, which this is not, I can't remember another movie where virtually everyone in it dies - painfully. There is just a lot of violence and death that is presented not horrifically, not glorifyingly, not dramatically, - just matter-of-factly.
Christian Bale's character makes a series of decisions that are entirely in-character but almost all of them turn out badly. Most of them don't appear to be bad or dumb at the time - except for one near the end that results in a biog shoot out where almost everyone that is left is killed, but that was more her fault than his.
The only decision that he makes that you think is the "right" one happens literally at the very last moment of the film, and it implies a happy ending, but knowing how the rest of the movie went, I wonder if after he changed his mind and got on the train to be with the woman the rescued, the train didn't derail 50 miles down the track and kill the kid she had with her.
The other thing that didn't sit right with me was his conversion. He spent 20 years killing native Americans in the most brutal way possible, even as he watched them kill his men in the same way. He had nothing but contempt for them. He contemplated suicide as opposed to taking this last mission to escort his old enemy and his family across the country. And yet, in maybe a couple of weeks, events completely change his outlook?
Maybe I am old and cynical, but I found that hard to believe.
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Re: What have you watched recently?

Postby Sith_Mafia » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:03 pm

rewatching twin peaks the return. this show is so far and above any other tv show i've ever seen. episode 8 is a masterpiece. also how did Kyle MacLachlan not get nominated for an Emmy after essentially playing 3 vastly different roles on the show.

i think my top 5 tv series of all time in no particular order are:
twin peaks
the simpsons
x-files
game of thrones
seinfeld
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Re: What have you watched recently?

Postby tombombodil » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:39 pm

Sith_Mafia wrote:rewatching twin peaks the return. this show is so far and above any other tv show i've ever seen. episode 8 is a masterpiece. also how did Kyle MacLachlan not get nominated for an Emmy after essentially playing 3 vastly different roles on the show.

i think my top 5 tv series of all time in no particular order are:
twin peaks
the simpsons
x-files
game of thrones
seinfeld


That's a solid list, but no The Wire?
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Re: What have you watched recently?

Postby Sith_Mafia » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:25 pm

tombombodil wrote:That's a solid list, but no The Wire?


only seen the first episode and i wasnt interested in it at the time. probably should revist

i was thinking what my next 5 series would be to make a top 10 and its pretty hard after those 5.

I think Oz would be up there and probably futurama.. Westworld is a current favorite but after only 2 seasons i'm not sure how it will hold up over time. I never really got into Lost, but I did enjoy Fringe.
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Re: What have you watched recently?

Postby tombombodil » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:13 pm

Sith_Mafia wrote:
tombombodil wrote:That's a solid list, but no The Wire?


only seen the first episode and i wasnt interested in it at the time. probably should revist

i was thinking what my next 5 series would be to make a top 10 and its pretty hard after those 5.

I think Oz would be up there and probably futurama.. Westworld is a current favorite but after only 2 seasons i'm not sure how it will hold up over time. I never really got into Lost, but I did enjoy Fringe.


There aren't many shows I will say this about (The Wire might be the only one in fact), but unless there is something you really actively dislike about it, you gotta give the wire at least 4-5 episodes to see if it clicks. There isn't any big shiny thing that it's about. It's a very subtle, slow burn, procedural but not actually procedural, smorgasbord of the stories of the lives of various people living their lives.

The strength is in the themes, the topicality, the accuracy to the real world, the dialog/writing, and the diverse 3-dimensional characters. It's uncompromising, offers no easy feel-goods or easy answers and conversely delivers no unearned or needlessly manipulative gut-punches.

It's a slick, brilliant work of modern fiction and is peerless in it's accomplishments. It took me a few tries to get into it too, but once I did, I don't think I could put another show over it, even if it's not my personal favorite,
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Re: What have you watched recently?

Postby Ikoma » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:45 pm

Trying Disenchanted, the new fantasy/comedy from Matt Groening (creator of The Simpsons and Futurama). It's off to a rocky start. I haven't given up yet but I don't feel much of a pull to go back. I think the biggest issue is that it's kind of a grim 'comedy'. Not really what I would consider black comedy - which is finding the comedy in horrible situations. More like they have deliberately created a strawman setting and then poke fun at it? I don't know. I haven't given it much thought. And maybe that's the ultimate problem. For whatever reason, it's not engaging me.
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