Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Larenil » Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:44 pm

I'm happy with you drawing up a plan on what you want and giving you an estimate on that.

From my perspective, Inns, merchant's buildings, etc. are probably upper-middle class affairs. A farmer would not be able to afford one, as a farmer probably lives on a gross income of a few gold a year. A shop or innkeep would likely have a couple hundred gold to may be a thousand gold a year, depending on location, etc., and I'm guessing living on 50-100gp net, which still puts them in an upper-middle class status. Shops like this would likely be passed down generation to generation, allowing the younger generations to make more money because the cost of the structure is deferred. Thus, for someone like Sterling with thousands of gold in disposable income, and more if the other party members are willing to go in as partners on it, building an entirely new structure for even 10,000gp (which would be a complete rebuild and probably rather nice), is quite doable. Buying an old structure for 5000gp would be easy. The Isles are going to give you a decent price because the population has dwindled lately, and the land has been devalued through occupation and a civil war. An inn like this in Torander's Bluff might be twice the price or more, sort of like going to New York or London.

Given that Sterling grew up largely in Anorien, I would suggest that his values are mostly derived from the High Elven culture there. The High Elves typically wait and have long courtships before marriage, due to these being centuries long commitments. Marriage is semi-formal with the High Elves. They don't have all the formalities of the Grey Elves, but neither do they have the complete freedom of Wild Elves (who sometimes simply say a few words to one another and declare themselves married!). The ceremony isn't that far removed from modern day human ceremonies, where you have a large latitude of what you would like, but vows are typically said in front of friends and family, typically in the name of one of the elven gods. Dowries are usually not given, and marriages are usually not arranged (except in the case of royalty, etc.). The names of the elves remain, and the children usually take the last name of the father.

Seldar is more formal and traditional medieval. I mention Seldar because that is where Arienne's father is from. Dowries are usually exchanged, and the marriage ceremony is much more patrilineal, with the woman taking the man's name and the children taking the name of the father as well. That being said, Arienne's father married an elf, so his take may be unusual for a Seldarian man. I think there is definitely some room for flexibility here.

Customs are all over the place for elves (so you can make up what you want), but typically in Seldar a quality dairy cow is given by the male to the female's family a a sign of his desire for betrothal.
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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Lord Foul » Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:53 pm

Larenil wrote:...typically in Seldar a quality dairy cow is given by the male to the female's family a a sign of his desire for betrothal.

OMG! Wait till the rest of the party finds out about this... :facepalm:
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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Larenil » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:33 pm

It's the major dairy producing region. I mean, how much more cheesy can a wedding gift be? :D
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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Larenil » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:47 pm

Are folks waiting on me to move something else along?
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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Lord Foul » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:16 pm

Yes, I think so. There's nothing more we can do ourselves here without you describing it for us. Personally, since you've already given the information in this thread I'm happy to hand-wave the actual tour of potential sites in the interest of moving things along. Unless there's something else you want to have happen in the Isles I reckon we can start heading for Seldar as soon as you are ready.
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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Lord Foul » Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:40 pm

Regarding the possible use of nets, I'd like to raise a point now rather than when it comes up in battle. Sterling has two battleaxes and is specialised in their use. He is an expert axe-wielder. It occurs to me that using two axes presents the opportunity to slice the blades across each other in much the same way as shears. By so doing, he should be able to cut his way free of any net thrown over him.

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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Larenil » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:48 pm

I think it depends on a couple of things. First, Sterling is huge. They'd need to have a pretty big net to catch him. Assuming that they did, however, Sterling can cut his way free of the net assuming that he has at least one axe in a hand at the time the net went over him. Similarly, if he has a dagger anywhere on him, he can pull it out and begin to cut his way out. These maneuvers would likely take a couple of rounds, however, as the net would prevent full movement. However, if Stering were to parry with both attacks, I think it quite reasonable that he could use his axes as a shears and cut his way free with that parry, effectively making his escape the same round that he was netted.

He also has the potential to drop his axes and bend bars/lift gates at double chance to rip the net if he uses his bare hands, in a single round.
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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Lord Foul » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:53 am

Useful to know, thanks. :thumbup:
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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Lord Foul » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:22 am

Larenil, I don't know if you have any specific plans for this period in the Isles, and if you do then that's fine, but if not I'm conscious that the overall story now seems to have become bogged down in Sterling's personal tale, and the others might be feeling a bit left out.

While I myself am quite happy to continue the current level of detail if everyone wants to, you might want to consider moving things along a bit more swiftly to get us to a place where everyone can contribute more equally. I'm fine with a certain amount of glossing over the details of Sterling and Arienne's personal tale if it helps get us all back on track.

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Re: Ashen Shores (OOC Thread)

Postby Larenil » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:40 pm

My goal for this time in the isles was to introduce a little more of the isles in terms of the dangers (sahuagins) and let you think about where you want to plop down residence based on that, proximity to the castle, the sylvan areas, streams, etc., and then let you all cruise about and do whatever you pleased before you went back. I'm happy to let this story play out in order to introduce more cultural aspects of the Isles, but if people get bored, let me know and we can fast forward.
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