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North Wind
I am the story stick
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:28 am Posts: 1398
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 Re: Colorado Shooting
clintmemo wrote: Ratatosk wrote: North Wind wrote: I wouldn't mind a separate thread on the nature of free will. Well, there's nothing stopping you from choosing to create one then, is there? It would be a difficult discussion because of the rule against talking about religion. D'oh!  Sorry, I was thinking 'philosophy,' not 'religion.' Of course there would be religious arguments about this subject.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:09 pm |
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Ratatosk
Hot Wings Eating Champ
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:06 pm Posts: 7592
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It would appear that we indeed don't have free will to discuss free will, then...
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clintmemo
Sat through Dan's Cap Ship Lecture and didn't fall asleep... mostly
Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:38 am Posts: 11883 Location: Louisville KY
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Ratatosk wrote: It would appear that we indeed don't have free will to discuss free will, then... Sure we do. We would just have to live with the consequences.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:12 pm |
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goatunit
Sat through Dan's Cap Ship Lecture and didn't fall asleep... mostly
Joined: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:56 am Posts: 11670 Location: Memphis, TN
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Gordon, I misunderstood your position. Looks legit. 
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:13 pm |
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North Wind
I am the story stick
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:28 am Posts: 1398
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 Re: Colorado Shooting
Ratatosk wrote: It would appear that we indeed don't have free will to discuss free will, then... Free will is not freedom of action. 
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:15 pm |
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Ratatosk
Hot Wings Eating Champ
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:06 pm Posts: 7592
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 Re: Colorado Shooting
North Wind wrote: Ratatosk wrote: It would appear that we indeed don't have free will to discuss free will, then... Free will is not freedom of action.  I know I know, I was also a Philosophy major, I just couldn't keep from baiting people on this subject (It's a long-running joke argument in my circle of friends)
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:33 pm |
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zircher
Skies of Glass Historian
Joined: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:54 am Posts: 6650 Location: Oklahoma City
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clintmemo wrote: It would be a difficult discussion because of the rule against talking about religion. This is why you use Army of Darkness references.  -- TAZ
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:41 pm |
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clintmemo
Sat through Dan's Cap Ship Lecture and didn't fall asleep... mostly
Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:38 am Posts: 11883 Location: Louisville KY
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zircher wrote: clintmemo wrote: It would be a difficult discussion because of the rule against talking about religion. This is why you use Army of Darkness references.  -- TAZ Klatuu Barada Necktie!
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Freemage
ZCE's Grandmother's Quantum Cat
Joined: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:02 pm Posts: 5653
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clintmemo wrote: GordonGoblin wrote: My understanding is that there's a wait before the Death Penalty, so it would not preclude mixing with other prisoners. There's a good chance they would keep him isolated. If they were going to execute him, they will want to have the state do it and not let some random prisoner kill him. Death penalty is, indeed, still active in Colorado. However, capital punishment there is VERY rarely given--there's a total of four cases since 1976 where the jury voted to execute, and even then, three of the sentences have yet to be carried out. Still, judging by the prior cases, this really does seem like a slam-dunk if the prosecutor asks for the death penalty, barring a finding of mental incompetence. I can't speak more on this subject, as it's even more Coz-worthy than the free will debate.
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okeefe
Dapper Metroid
Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 3559 Location: Denver
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