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Interesting read.

http://badassdigest.com/2012/05/31/the- ... hn-carter/

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I really really enjoyed John Carter.

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I think the DVD sales/rentals for John Carter are going to be much better than for Battleship. Word of mouth is important. Everything I ever read/heard about John Carter ranges from "meh" to "I really really enjoyed John Carter." Whereas, everything I read/heard about Battleship ranges from "meh" to "the worst 200 million dollar movie ever made."

Another interesting notion that the article does not mention but has been mentioned many times elsewhere is that, apparently, Battleship will likely be profitable and lead to (of the horror!) more movies based on board games.
But that would mean that John Carter, with a similar sized budget and a similar sized gross, will likely also make a profit. Does that mean that there will be more movies based on unused public domain SF classics? No one seems to think so.

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GordonGoblin wrote:
I really really enjoyed John Carter.

Ditto. I can't understand the dislike from the critics. Everyone I actually know, who has seen it, has liked it.

Interesting article. I think it's a bit overstated in its premise. In virtually every industry I know, the "suits" can't do what the "creatives" do. My publisher or editor couldn't design an ad with a gun to their head. But that's OK, I couldn't run a newspaper. If the premise of the article were true, then every industry would be run by people who hate and are jealous of their employees.

I suppose Hollywood is a bit different, because it really (really) is crazy, so I can see where the author is coming from. Hmm. Food for thought. As an ERB fan, though, I lament John Carter's lambasting, whatever the reason.

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keithcurtis wrote:
GordonGoblin wrote:
I really really enjoyed John Carter.

Ditto. I can't understand the dislike from the critics. Everyone I actually know, who has seen it, has liked it.


My friends went to see it with me because I was so excited about it. They didn't expect too much. And they were all pleasantly suprised.

A fun story, a strong female (scientist and inventor) lead character (another bad decision was to change the name from Princess of Mars - Dejah Thoris rocked that movie), a great setting.

I think if they'd made it 2d it might even have made a profit.

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Interesting article. I think it's a bit overstated in its premise. In virtually every industry I know, the "suits" can't do what the "creatives" do. My publisher or editor couldn't design an ad with a gun to their head. But that's OK, I couldn't run a newspaper. If the premise of the article were true, then every industry would be run by people who hate and are jealous of their employees.


it's very over stated and over simplified. And the message "stick to your own aspect of the job" is well applied.

Look at Monte Cook's interview where he said that at TSR if the "suits" were watching you got stuck in meetings about the colour yellow, and when they weren't you got Planescape Cant.

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I suppose Hollywood is a bit different, because it really (really) is crazy, so I can see where the author is coming from. Hmm. Food for thought. As an ERB fan, though, I lament John Carter's lambasting, whatever the reason.

:agree:
I came out of that movie wanting another movie set on that world. And wanting to run something in the Savage Worlds Mars that is shamelessly ripped off from based on it

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Yeah... They wouldn't let the title contain either the words "Princess" or "Mars." In retrospect, it was a stupid call, but I can see why (from a marketing standpoint at least) they made the call (even though I disagreed with it, both on general principles AND from a marketing standpoint.)

It was a great movie. It was the kind of movie I wanted to watch again before it had finished. It was the kind of movie I wanted to own before it hit the midway point.

It was the kind of movie I want to game in, if that makes sense...

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DrMikey wrote:
It was a great movie. It was the kind of movie I wanted to watch again before it had finished. It was the kind of movie I wanted to own before it hit the midway point.

It was the kind of movie I want to game in, if that makes sense...

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